I want an off-road capable vehicle

"aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe" (emaxxbl)
10/08/2016 at 12:30 • Filed to: None

BUT I HAVE NO MONEY

Rust doesn’t scare me, I’ll just hack the quarters up and install 40 inch tires

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My friend has a tacoma from this generation, maybe I could buy this 4runner and we could be offroad bros.

Or maybe I could just help him find an engine for his taco.

DISCUSSION (20)

Spridget > aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe
10/08/2016 at 12:42

Buy an old piece of shit 4x4 and drop the Alfa body on top of it.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe
10/08/2016 at 12:43

Buy a garbage 4x4 that runs but is cosmetically rough and put the parts Jag on top.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe
10/08/2016 at 12:43

As long as the gaskets have been done or you are capable of doing them yourself, these things take a beating. One night I pulled out 5 full size trucks while in the same muck they were in.

Also, 40's will destroy the axles and cost around $500 a piece. 33's get the job done when I need it.

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe
10/08/2016 at 13:00

Zj 4.0?

Tapas > aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe
10/08/2016 at 13:02

No money? Your feet are your vehicle!

Or get a xterra

Tristan > aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe
10/08/2016 at 13:37

Having no money is very incongruous to the hobby of ‘wheeling. For instance: for some reason both my XJ and WJ are more expensive to insure than any of the crowd-eating Mustangs I’ve owned. Then, the obvious slurping of fuel, very expensive tires, the expense of doing a suspension lift properly, buying recovery gear for when things go sideways, and the constant repairs that come with having double the drivetrain of a car that’s constantly being punished with mud, sand, rocks and the added stress of bigger, heavier tires. I’ve tried it... I even did a medical study where I took mystery drugs and was locked in a hospital for a week to get money for my Jeep. I’m not trying to tell you not to do it, because I’d do it all the same if I did it over because nothing beats being miles away from everything in the woods—Just make sure you really like Ramen.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Tristan
10/08/2016 at 14:26

Or just buy a Toyota. Rarely breaks even when torture tested at 20 years old. Cheap to insure. Similarly awful on fuel.

BorkBorkBjork > aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe
10/08/2016 at 15:27

Buy a 4-wheeler, rent a trailer

Garrett Davis > aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe
10/08/2016 at 16:24

Do. Not. Buy. That. 4Runner.

The 3VZE engine is one of the worst engines Toyota ever made. I made the mistake of having two of them in my lifetime, and I wish I had just gotten the 22RE. That 3.0 is still a dog and is very unreliable.

XJ, ZJ, Comanche (drool), are all rock solid 4x4s with a nearly unlimited aftermarket behind them and can still be had for dirt cheap. I know you said that is just too predictable, but if you want to go cheap, you’ve got to compromise some of your ideals in one way or another.

First gen Explorers are also pretty solid, or if you want to go bigger, a Bronco would be awesome.

Garrett Davis > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
10/08/2016 at 16:49

The 3VZE V6 is probably the least reliable engine Toyota has ever made though. So between that 4Runner and a 4.0 XJ, I would take the XJ every time.

And just to throw this out there, what he’s saying with the insurance sounds really weird, because my XJ was cheap as hell to insure.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Garrett Davis
10/08/2016 at 17:28

My 3VZE has had significantly less problems than many 4.0's that I know of. It’s a perfectly reliable engine other than the headgaskets. Which, if I recall correctly, was less of a problem than XJ’s entire heads. There are plenty 300k+ mile 3VZEs out there, and I’ll take headgasket issues over the 1001 issues that a mid 90's Chrysler product will have.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Garrett Davis
10/08/2016 at 17:28

Also: Least reliable engine Toyota has ever made>Chrysler’s overall reliability.

Garrett Davis > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
10/08/2016 at 17:35

I guess we’re both talking anecdotal evidence here, but I’ve owned two 3VZE trucks and two Jeeps with 4.0s. The Toyotas were constantly giving me trouble, and the Jeeps were rock solid, with one of them cresting 240k miles when I sold it, and it still ran great.

You have to remember, the 4.0 was not really a Chrysler product, it was an AMC made engine that Chrysler actually improved (one of the few times they improved anything) with a rock solid fuel injection system. I don’t know what kind of problems your friends with Jeeps had, but I find it hard to believe that they were in any way unreliable, especially the heads, which are so unbelievably simply built, that there is almost nothing to go wrong.

The worst thing about the 4.0 is the tendency to crack exhaust manifolds. But after dealing with both those and the head gaskets on my Toyotas, I’ll take the manifolds any day, because at least they’re a one time fix, and not something that will come back around again.

Garrett Davis > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
10/08/2016 at 17:37

Not a Chrysler fan in the least, but your ignorance is showing here, and it’s not pretty.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Garrett Davis
10/08/2016 at 17:52

I’ve had a 3VZE for 5 years. With the exception of replacing the gaskets, I have had zero issues with it. Also, it doesn’t matter how reliable the engine is if the rest of the vehicle poorly thrown together.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Garrett Davis
10/08/2016 at 17:53

Sorry, but growing up around and having friends with Jeeps, it’s not ignorance.

Garrett Davis > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
10/08/2016 at 18:43

OK, so you have had a reliable 3VZE and I’ve had reliable Jeeps. No point in arguing further, because it’s really just anecdotal evidence VS anecdotal evidence, which will get us no where.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Garrett Davis
10/08/2016 at 19:00

Versus the well documented reliability ratings of mid-90's Chrysler, but okay.

Tristan > Garrett Davis
10/09/2016 at 01:04

For some reason when I was 17 this was the case. I sold my ‘88 Mustang GT and bought my XJ and insurance went up around $75/month. I just did a quote on Progressive using a ‘98 Cobra vs. A ‘97 XJ- $40/mo vs $36/mo... I stand corrected. Though I know my insurance went up when I sold my ‘05 Magnum RT and bought my ‘02 WJ last spring.

Tristan > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
10/09/2016 at 01:05

Yeah, I mean, I have that one power door lock actuator that doesn’t want to work right. What an unreliable POS.